Before going further with the dodecahedron some pentagonal expressions must be derived. The radius of the circumscribed circle for the pentagon is 1/(2cos(3pi/10)) = [2]/[5-[5]] = [5+[5]]/[10] The inscribed circle radius of the altitude of one of the five triangles making up the pentagon is (1/2)tan((3pi/10) = (1/2)([3+[5]]/[5-[5]]) = (1/2)([20+8[5]]/[20]) = (1/2)([5+2[5]]/[5]) The inscribed ot circumscribed ratio is (1/2)([5+2[5]]/[5]) / [5+[5]]/[10] = 1/[2] [15+5[5]]/[20] = [3+[5]]/(2[2]) = (1+[5])/4 The circumscribed to inscribed ratio is [5+[5]]/[10] 2[5]/[5+2[5]] = [2][15-5[5]]/[5] = [2][3-[5]] = [5]-1 The area of the pentagon is then 5 (1/2) (1/2)([5+2[5]]/[5]) = [5][5+2[5]]/4 Now going back to the expression in proof_new.txt for the dodecahedron inscribed sphere radius in terms of an edge. 1/([2][25-11[5]]) = 1/[2] [25+11[5]]/[625-605] = [25+11[5]]/[40] Using the inscribed sphere radius of the dodecahedron the volume of the dodecahedron is then 12/3 [25+11[5]]/[40] [5][5+2[5]]/4 = 5[235+105[5]]/[200] = [5][47+21[5]]/[8] To determin whether an expression of the form [a+b[5]] is a perfect square of the form c+d[5] consider if [a+b[5]] = c+d[5] = [c^2 + 5d^2 +2cd[5]] then a = c^2 + 5d^2 and b = 2cd or a = c^2 + 5/4 b^2/c^2 c^4 - a c^2 + 5/4 b^2 = 0 has a real solution if a^2 - 5b^2 = 47^2 - 5 21^2> 0 Now 47^2 - 5 21^2 = 1600+560+49-2205 = 4 > 0 so it may be possible to simplify the expression for the volume of the dodecahedron. c^2 = (a +- 2)/2 = 45/2 , 49/2 d = 21/[90] , 21/[94] multiplying by 5/8 c^2 = 225/16 c=15/4 d= 21(5/8) 2/15 = 7/4 So the volume of the dodecahedron can also be expressed as (15+7[5])/4 These expressions are rendered in MathML at pentagon.xml ref: /wiki/Nth_root /wiki/Periodic_continued_fraction#Reduced_surds /wiki/Continued_fraction#Continued_fraction_expansions_of_.CF.80 /wiki/Galois_theory (c)2009 Wm.C.Corwin billc(a)issi1(dot)com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- superfulous: 21 has factors 3 and 7 and what c and d could have cd/2 / c^2+5d^2 = 21/47 470 = c^2 + 5 d^2 and 210 = 2cd 235 = 5 47 ; 105 = 2cd = 3 35 = 3 5 7 470 = 2 5 47 ; 210 = 2 3 5 7 = 225 + 245 5 3^2 + 7^2 = 3 15 + 7^2 = 94 = 2 47 = 15^2 + 5 7^2 210 = 2 7 15 c = 15 ; d = 7 (15 + 7[5])/4 = [225+245 + 210[5]]/4 = [5/8][47+21[5]] (c) 2009 Wm.C.Corwin www.ConcurrentInverse.com